Friday, November 02, 2007

TBA's Request: Rob's Farewell Post

tba said...
A final request before you leave please post your comment on the front page of this blog. That long comment you just posted was classic and it explains the deep problem well and why you are leaving. It is easily your greatest and most important writing on this blog and it needs to be your final, farewell blog post.The manginas who come on this blog need to read that post. I've already saved a copy of myself.


Here it is:

Hello everyone, Thanks for all of your kind words. Wow! I didn’t know that I was actually having an impact on anyone.

The thing is, what I can’t get passed, is that this problem is so incredibly deep and complex that I just don’t know where to begin. This is NOT a problem that has only cropped up in the past few decades, but rather a problem that has snuck upon us over the past few CENTURIES!

Like I said, I just don’t know where to begin. And it is not really fair of me to expect people to “get it,” because I did not “get it” myself until I did a massive amount of reading on a variety of subjects that are not directly affiliated with the MRM. I have had an abnormal amount of free time on my hands over the past few years because of health problems. These problems had me really upset and depressed, and I decided to pull myself out of that funk by getting my brain busy, rather than dwelling on my problems. So, I basically spend anywhere from 4 to 12+ hours a day reading – and I don’t read the constant drivel of news articles that display “misandry,” which the MRM seems to be solely focused on.

Yes, Debra LaFave did indeed commit statutory rape, and yes other women are doing this as well, and another woman will do it again tomorrow, and so on. We should all know that by now. The question should be, rather, WHY is this happening? (And I am not just talking about this certain type of crime – but ALL of the problems that feminism has brought to us)

In order to understand this problem, one really has to turn off people like Warren Farrell and go deep – waaayyyy deep. This is a problem that is rooted in Anthropology, Sexology, Political Science, History, (honest) Sociology and (honest) Psychology. Only 1% of the people are going to “get it” and even among that 1%, many of those will probably not like what they find.

I am quite sure that it is for this reason that during the Constitutional Convention in 1787 that the US Founding Fathers pretty much locked themselves up - to keep themselves from talking to, and being influenced by, the masses. Basically, I think, they recognized how incredibly stupid the masses are, and that it is a necessity for wiser men to decide things for them, much in the same way that a father decides what is best for his child without always bothering to explain exactly “why” to the child. I think that during the Constitutional Convention, there was likely much talk about how incredibly stupid “we the people” really are, and this is why they came up with so many checks and balances – to protect us not only from intrusive government, but also from our own natural stupidity. There was probably no way that they could have rationalized exactly WHY they made things the way they were, without forcing every citizen to sit down for a few years and educate themselves on a variety of subjects first. All of the Founding Fathers seem to have been amongst the most brilliant and well read men that existed at the time.

What may surprise many of you, is that I actually think that many of the feminist thinkers & authors were 100% correct in their analysis. They really did peg it correctly when they talk about the human condition. I doubt they actually thought it up themselves, but likely got it from wise men that came before them. The difference being, though, that feminists are Marxists, and the goal of both is to DESTROY society and build “Heaven on Earth.” They did, in fact, target things that wise men before them had already identified about the human condition, and they use those things to destroy society.

Men have indeed “oppressed women.” Especially sexually. Misogyny did indeed exist throughout patriarchal history – and for damn good reasons too! In order for civilization to advance, women HAD TO BE OPPRESSED! This created the vehicle that pushed society forward in much the same way that it was sheer genius to “oppress” horses for the good of mankind.

I tend to view civilization/society as if it were the body of a sailboat. The sail represents women, and the keel & rudder represent men. The sail is "oppressed" by the wind, and the keel is "oppressed" by the water. Society has been busy cutting the ropes which oppress the sail to the mast, without realizing that without the sail's oppression, the keel's oppression fails to work properly. Sure, you may float about for a while, you may even drift in the right direction sometimes. But the keel is useless, and you can no longer tack into the wind. The rudder doesn't work either. Eventually, you will drift towards the rocks, and everyone will start screaming to the captain to use the rudder and steer out of harm's way, and he will scream back to "hoist the sails" but everyone looks at him like he's smoking dope and says, "but that's oppressive, we can't do that!"

These problems we are having did not arise from the 1960’s style of feminism. It did indeed come from the 60’s, but dial that a century back to the 1860’s and you will likely begin to find the roots of the problem. In the 1860’s, it became normalized for women to gain custody of children, and the divorce rate has steadily increased ever since that date up until today. There's another thing that one can thank the noble suffragettes for. The whole point of marriage and women’s sexual fidelity was that women “sold” themselves, along with their reproductive abilities, to men in a legally binding economic contract called marriage. Women sold men a family that was assuredly his own, and men paid for it by providing and protecting. This is why, throughout history, women were condemned so harshly for adultery, while men were not. There were no DNA tests back then, and men needed to know that their children were actually theirs - and would remain permanently so. Women do indeed have just as strong of a sex drive as men, as is evidenced by anthropological studies of societies that do not have marriage. The women in those societies are hump-monkeys just like men, and none of those societies have ever become advanced. Women's sexual oppression = men's work oppression = advanced civilization.

All things between men and women seem to "equalize," just as sex drives. Men have large, but less frequent "spikes" while women have smaller, but more frequent "rythyms." It works this way for sin, it works this way for sex, it works this way for intelligence, it even works this way with happiness - as men have a major mid-life crisis, while women have a series of smaller but more frequent "mini" mid-life crisises.

Marx & Engels themselves identified correctly that women were the proper vehicle to bring about the ideas which they wanted - those which would destroy civilization. Women control our social values. Feminism was born of the Socialist ideals of the Transcendentalist Movement of the early 1800’s, which itself was born of Rousseau and the French Revolution. (***Note the correction posted at the end of this article***). This movement became Marxism in 1848, the same year that Feminism officially became organized. Ever since, it has been a movement of giving women more and more power, and using women’s nature to lead society to its current state of near self destruction. This is what transferring “ownership” of children to women was about, and what giving women the vote was about. The more you empower women, the easier it is to bring forth the conditions which will destroy civilization.

This is not to say that it is all “women’s” fault. Indeed, women’s power is born of men’s natural stupidity in regard to their behaviour around women.

This is easy to see when one looks back throughout the history of mankind.

Entitlement princesses are not new, and neither are manginas. In fact, both were talked about repeatedly throughout history. Aristotle talked of the Spartan Women and how, when they gained economic power, society fell apart. Genesis tells us that God put “enmity” between the man and the woman. Sodom & Gomorrah worshipped androgyny/homosexuality, and they were wiped from the face of the earth – much like how our Christian based civilization has begun to worship androgyny and is also being wiped from the face of the earth – by our ever decreasing birthrates. We soon will not exist.

Here is a piece that was written 700 years ago, but could have been written just as easily by any MRA of today:

“This female clock is really driving me mad, for her quarrelsome din doesn’t stop for a moment. The tongue of a quarrelsome woman never tires of chiming in. She even drowns out the sound of the church bell. A nagging wife couldn’t care less whether her words are wise or foolish, provided that the sound of her own voice can be heard. She simply pursues her own ends; there’s not a grain of sense in what she says; in fact she finds it impossible to have a decent thought. She doesn’t want her husband to be the boss and finds fault with everything he does. Rightly or wrongly, the husband has no choice: he has to put up with the situation and keep his mouth shut if he wants to remain in one piece. No man, however self disciplined or clear sighted he may be, can protect himself adequately against this. A husband has to like what the wife likes, and disapprove of what she hates and criticize what she criticizes so that her opinions appear to be right. So anyone who wishes to immolate himself on the altar of marriage will have a lot to put up with. Fifteen times, both day and night, he will suffer without respite and he will be sorely tormented. Indeed, I believe that this torture is worse than the torments of hell, with its chains, fire, and iron.”

These problems we are struggling against ARE NOT NEW, but rather are very, very old and are an integral part of the human condition.

The last king of Persia, Darius III, who at the time ruled the greatest empire the world had ever seen, lamented that “my men have become women and my women have become men,” as he was getting his ass handed to him by Alexander the Great.

The Greeks, recognizing that women had caused the downfall of other civilizations, made a very specifically misogynist state with the intention of controlling them, so that their civilization would flourish – which it did.

It was said that during the height of the Roman Empire, that women married intending to divorce, and divorced intending to remarry. The state tried to force men to marry women to stave off declining birthrates, but the men back then decided to go their own way, and wouldn't touch the women. The decline in birthrates caused a shortage in labour, so they imported foreigners (the Vandals, I believe - though don't quote me on that), who did not consider themselves part of Rome and were unwilling to defend it. Kinda sounds like multi-culturalism, eh?

When the Ottoman Empire was over-run, it had negative birthrates.

Delilah deceived Sampson and in doing so, destroyed the strongest man on earth.

Eve tempted Adam, and like any pussy mangina of today, Adam said, “yes, ma’am!”

Reading the works of Belfort Bax, and others who wrote during the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, one can hardly distinguish the timeframe, as it could have just as easily been written by Angry Harry only yesterday!

Esther Villar states that “women’s lib” in the 60’s had pretty much accomplished all of its legitimate goals within ONE YEAR! Why has the MRM not been able to accomplish even a peep in 25 years? Because of the human condition – we are dealing with things that we should have never been dealing with in the first place.

Aristotle says that society will remain stable only if all men are equal before the law. Well, because of manginahood, society has never been able to make women equal to men before the law. Men always excused them, and women have never demanded that other women be punished as harshly as men constantly demand other men be punished. I believe the only way that society was able to control women within society was to remove their "legal rights" and place them under the direct authority of one man, her husband, who is responsible for her actions - and thusly her discipline. Then society controls the man through the law - something which men, because of their linear thinking & abstract thought, do adhere to (while women do not). In this way, through marriage, society was able to somewhat make both sexes "equal" before the law.

At the zenith of civilizations, men and women seem to repel from eachother and then conditions set in which cause society to collapse. Maybe we are like lemmings, the only difference being that we are on a longer cycle. Who knows?

These problems are not “new.” They are very, very old. They are part of the human condition. Women are natural manipulators and dissimulators, and men naturally come to “heel” for them. It is not women’s fault that they are like this, it is just their naturalness within the human condition. It is not “wrong” for rattlesnakes to have venomous fangs either.

The genius of civilization has been recognizing that women are manipulative and that men are pussy manginas when around them – and thusly, 1% of people who were smart enough to see this accurately, devised a system in which women’s powers were severely limited so as to cause a civilization to come about. I believe that this is why we have religion in the first place. Religions are in fact, gigantic “constitutions” with completely immoveable goalposts. They prevent mankind from destroying himself and civilization by preventing mankind from using his greatest tool, the ability to reason, as a weapon against himself. Some things are just beyond what we should rationalize about, and this is what patriarchal religions have given to the world – an immoveable law that restricts us from asking questions which would destroy us.

The MRM will always be filled with pussy manginas. It has been ever since the start. It has also been entirely ineffective because men cannot bring themselves to show real anger and hostility toward women, even when women are showing hostility to men. The MRM will always be beaten down into the ground by men themselves. We are dealing with things that are integral to human nature and which we should not have been dealing with in the first place. The MRM has always been running around saying “not ALL women,” yet hardly even noticing that not a single woman around them says the same thing when laws get passed against ALL men because of a one in 15,000,000 nutball like Marc Lepine. (Yes, every year since 1989, Marc Lepine has been used as an excuse to remove the rights and powers of ALL Canadian men.) When will men wake up and tell these people to FUCK OFF? Never, that’s when! Men cannot hardly bring themselves to whisper even a bit of protest in the face of women. The MRM is rife with manginas trying to make sure that no-one is misogynistic, yet, our very civilization is based on patriarchal misogyny, which feminists and Marxists have correctly identified.

Is it fair to women that it is this way? Certainly it is not.

It is not fair to ask men to die for a social construct called a “nation” in times of war either, is it?

It is not fair that horses have been oppressed by mankind either – but it is a damn good thing that they were!

The thing is, what the MRM is doing is actually hurting men. This civilization has to be reconstructed, and it likely will not happen until things get REALLY bad. A major economic depression or a major war will smarten women and manginas up REAL FAST! It is pretty hard to be an entitlement princess when you have to beg a man for food which he has hunted for or grown himself, or to get warmth in the log cabin which HE has built. Women will likely be more than happy to scrub floors and give unlimited blowjobs to any such man if civilization were to collapse. Women’s “power” only seems to come about when a civilization gets powerful and wealthy enough to afford it to women. Have a look at previous civilizations. It seems almost uncanny that at their zenith, men and women have repelled from eachother (because women gained too much power over men), and then the civilization soon collapsed, and men and women rejoined forces out of necessity FOR WOMEN – a man can survive with a garbage bag and a pocket knife. Lol! Even when women have caused the destruction of great civilizations in the past, men were still manginas enough to take them back. It’s a good thing too, I suppose, or none of us would be here. It is human nature for women to manipulate, and for men to be pussies and manginas in regard to women.

But… what we have to keep in mind is the thing called the “generation gap.”

All we are doing is slowing this beast down – we will not be able to stop it, Marxism has NEVER been defeated. And the longer it takes for this civilization to collapse under the weight of women’s big fat asses, and from the hot air from their mangina lackey boys, the less we will remember about the issues of the previous generations.

For example, none of us really questions women’s “right” to vote, or even men’s “right” to vote. (Universal Suffrage = a Marxist Ideal used to bring about Socialism) These issues were hotly fought over in the 1800’s & early 1900’s. There was much talk back then about the changing of a Republic into a full blown Democracy – and rightly so, when one starts reading the reasons WHY a Republic is superior, and WHY Democracies have always imploded. But, because of the passage of time, we don’t even hardly question these ideologies anymore. In fact, the Republic which was NOT founded as a Democracy, is now running around killing people all around the world in the name of making the world “safe” for Democracy. That should show the disconnect in our thinking right there!

Marxists know all about the passage of generations, and use it to their own advantage. We are now entering into the passage of generations that will no longer question “divorce.” 50 years from now, divorce will be moot point discussion, as the reasons for strong marriages will be as forgotten as the reasons for having a Republic instead of a Democracy.

I say that all American MRA’s should vote for Hitlery Clinton. That stunned cow will likely be men’s greatest ally in the end. Let’s kill this cancer called feminism in our society by, well, killing society. That’ll work, won’t it?

But, let’s not do it slowly, like a little baby, crying as the bandaid gets pulled off slowly. Let’s rip the thing right off!

Let’s not “slow it down” but rather speed it up! Let’s make sure that it happens in only one generation, so that there will be men around who understand the ideals we should strive for when we have to rebuild from the ashes.

What most of the MRM seems to fail to realize is that because of the nature of men and women, you cannot just fix some things and not other things.

Think about a ball and a hill.

The ball will only remain stationary at either the top or the bottom of the hill. It will NEVER stay in place half way up the hill, but will always roll back down again. The MRM seems to be led by the belief that we just have to pick up the ball and run it halfway up the hill, put it down, and all will be fine again. Well, that just ain’t gonna work! Women will always manipulate males into giving up more power again – it is their nature! We need the ball to be completely stationary at the TOP of the hill for this problem to be fixed. The rise and fall of previous civilizations should show this to us accurately.

The MRM is only slowing down the inevitable, because it is apparent that the MRM cannot rid itself of manginahood. It is full of little thinking but much talking idiots who buy into the Marxist-Humanist RELIGIOUS belief that it is possible for humans to be so powerful to make the Lion lie peacefully with Lamb. Religions specifically tell us NOT to do this – and for good reason! Religions tell us that we have to accept that good and evil are all around us, we must fight against evil and uphold goodness, but that we, as humans, are not powerful enough to defeat evil. Only God can defeat evil and make the Lion peaceful to the Lamb. We should not try. Both the Feminists and the MRM seem to be completely sold on the notion that mankind is in fact more powerful than God or Nature. Marxism is the religious belief that man is God and has the ability to create “Heaven on Earth.” It sells the idea that it can eliminate evil. The MRM seems quite full of this belief as well. Well, I’m saying that it can’t. But, this is why manginas are everywhere in the MRM and why they are telling all of the men who actually think, that they shouldn’t think like that. It is human nature to do so – but these are things we should NOT be rationalizing about, as it will bring about our destruction.

What was the moral of the story about Icarus flying too close to the sun? Wasn’t it about mankind defeating himself when he tries to overpower nature? Yup, I think it was.

Keep in mind that Cultural Marxism is the melding of Freud into Marxism. It full well knows that women are manipulative and men are manginas. What does everyone think the study of sex would indicate otherwise? Marxism also full well knows that giving women power has caused other civilizations to crumble and fall. The, um, entire goal of Marxism is to destroy civilization, so of course they would want to do what has brought destruction to the Persians, Greeks & Romans.

Well, as you can see, I don’t know where to start, nor where to finish. I also know that these are entirely complex issues and that I will have little ability to relay this accurately to the MRM, because many in the MRM are really not too concerned with anything except their own ideological involvement within the MRM – much like why Father’s Right’s Activists so often distance themselves from the MRM. They are only concerned with their own part of the puzzle, certainly not about what the whole picture looks like.

These issues are far too complex to just “explain” to people. In order to effectively fight this madness, there would definitely need to be “top down manipulation” because, in general, people are just too stupid, or too apathetic. We are in this rotten situation because of Top Down Manipulations – there is no doubt about that – and there is no doubt that the same will be needed to stop the madness. Either that, or one can just get a bag of popcorn, step aside much like a Judo move, and fight by not resisting.

Wait to see how much women won’t like what Hitlery brings to them when she institutes this Kiddy Lib madness…

When she was First Lady, she did much work to bring this crap into the UN, as President, she will bring it right to women’s front door step.

But watch, after 40 years of male bashing, watch how all of the manginas will run to defend the women when they realize how badly they’ve screwed up.

Men are already defeated, and have been for decades, if not centuries.

Now the Howitzer is turning and getting ready to fire on the women.

Why should I care? You gets whats you sow, ladies. I’m no mangina, and I won’t be coming to their aid.

Far more important for us to be ready to fight viciously for the proper ideals after this cancer has been killed, AFTER the destruction of the ill host, which has become our civilization.

It might possibly be that the worst thing we can do is slow down the inevitable, because doing so will only eliminate, via time, the men that will be needed to inject the proper, patriarchally misogynist ideals that will be needed to form a new type of civilization.

Well, that said, I am also going to take a break from this game and regain some sanity in my life – take time to smell the roses, more or less.

I have no wife. I have no children. I have no alimony or child support payments. I have zero debt. I have a nice tidy sum of cash saved up due to investing in stocks & commodities over the past few years. I own gold in case the economy goes for a shitter. I realize that I don’t have to work my ass off in order to survive, as I have managed to survive quite nicely over the past few years without being a work-slave. I have a crappy old car to drive around in, and I still live in one of the most beautiful areas of the world. I have little direct stake in this whole game, except for my annoyance at the situation. It is quite possible for me to live a nice life despite the madness which surrounds me. My health problems are going away and I expect (or demand) that I am on the other side of it by spring, and I am finding a desire to move on with my life.

So I am going to disappear. I might come back some day, as these issues seem to be a continual annoyance once one realizes what they are. Lol! They have been annoying me since before I wrote my first anti-feminist article, as an English Lit term paper for college back in 1992, criticizing the anti-male bias found in the university’s student handbook in regard to violence and rape. But if I come back, I would likely kill off the fictitious Rob Fedders, and maybe try to go a bit more main-stream with my ideas – lol, as un-mainstream as they are.

But I will always be a man who chooses to go his own way.

Cheers guys, thanks for all the nice comments.



Anything that you find on this blog that was written specifically by me, any man may pinch, quote, steal, plagiarize or do whatever the hell else they wish to do with it. You need not ask permission, nor even link if you choose not to. Anything that I have specifically written of my own accord, I hereby transfer ownership to men in general. I get a kick out of seeing my pieces posted around the web, and I need no credit for such things, as Rob Fedders does not even really exist.

Keep your stick on the ice!


***Correction to this article by "Confused" at Nice-Guy’s Forum***

Rob Fedders wrote: "Feminism was born of the Socialist ideals of the Transcendentalist Movement of the early 1800’s, which itself was born of Rousseau and the French Revolution."

Only correction I would like to add is that Transdentalism movement was inspired by adopting some of the vedantic thinking from Hindu scriptures.

The spiritual hunger of the age that also gave rise to a new evangelical Christianity gave rise, in the educated centers in New England and around Boston, to an intuitive, experiential, passionate, more-than-just-rational perspective. God gave humankind the gift of intuition, the gift of insight, the gift of inspiration. Why waste such a gift?

Added to all this, the scriptures of non-Western cultures were discovered in the West, translated, and published so that they were more widely available. The Harvard-educated Emerson and others began to read Hindu and Buddhist scriptures, and examine their own religious assumptions against these scriptures. In their perspective, a loving God would not have led so much of humanity astray; there must be truth in these scriptures, too. Truth, if it agreed with an individual's intuition of truth, must be indeed truth.

And so Transcendentalism was born. In the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson, "We will walk on our own feet; we will work with our own hands; we will speak our own minds...A nation of men will for the first time exist, because each believes himself inspired by the Divine Soul which also inspires all men."

Yes, men, but women too.


Thanks, Confused -- RF