This is EXCELLENT! xblitz44x, I want to use your post to illustrate a point.
DISCLAIMER: One can learn a lot with speed seduction. You can
learn how to be more at ease with talking to them (since women are more
comfortable with talking about feelings then anything intellectual), and good to
give a starting point of 'how-tos' when you deal with women.
my issue with SS has always been the SPIRIT of SS: that it destroys the Man
within to turn you into a Metamorph to fit the woman's lust. (Yet, SS has the
vanity to think that it is altering the woman!)
she moves, you move. Try to mirror her breath frequency and
Your body behavior has become reactive.
conversation, try to use these words as much as you can, so that her
sub-conscious will pick up on it and realize that they must be important to you
too. But repeating these words back to her, she will think that you sincerely
understand her and can relate to what she is talking about."
vocabulary has become reactive.
The most important part of seduction
IMO, is demonstrating your value. If you approach a woman, and she blows you
off, or if she never returns your calls, or if she turns you down for a date,
you have not shown her the VALUE that you can provide to her.
true in that you are THE PRIZE TO BE WON and that she is after to CATCH
But notice that with this you now cease to be Man and become
reactive of values based on WOMAN'S RESPONSE. Gone is integrity! You want to
create the 'values' that WORKS toward her lust. Thus, the manner of these
'values' are all going to react to her lust.
When you are Eliciting
Values, you are finding out what is important to her, what SHE values,
transforming into a man that can give her that, and finally providing her with
No longer are you a Man! Now you are a Shifter! You are bending
yourself towards what she wants. (This is the Average Frustrated Chump that
ceases to be frustrated. Notice that he is still a chump.)
Now, if you
were merely to pick out common things she said and leap on those to build a
common ground, that would be one thing (which is called 'good conversation
skills'). But the entire SPIRIT of this SS is based entirely in HER eyes, how
SHE must see you, how SHE must percieve you.
From this conversation,
I've discovered that she likes to feel a little in danger. She loves the
excitment of living on the edge. From this you should TRANSFORM yourself into a
man that can provide her with these feelings that SHE VALUES!
only are you to TRANSFORM yourself, you are to PROVIDE HER those feelings she
LUSTS for. This is the Social Dildo who's social behavior is geared only toward
tapping female lust (which itself is fine but triggering her lust TRUMPS your
own values. You are to be transformed).
Most women believe they are
living their own fairytale and are searching for the male star. In order to
become that male star, you must bring it to her attention that you two have a
lot of things in common and it is amazing to connect with somebody on such a
To become that male star! Now you live for HER
After you've done this a few times, say something along the
"Can you remember what it felt like when you were in front of
somebody that you maybe just recently met, but it feels like you've known this
person for ever? You feel yourself start to relax, and open up to him because it
seems so natural, as if we connect on some deeper level? With me, I don't think
it can be forced, but when it does happen, it feels amazing"
your body behavior became reactive. Then your vocabulary. Then your values and
character. Now your speech is to sound like a banquet of fluffy words all
arranged to reflect her own lust back to her.
If you want her to feel
horney, you could say something like this:
"My brother just called me, he
just lost his virginity this weekend and he was asking me for tips. Remember
back when you were younger, and you had this one lover that could always do
things to your body that would send tingles dancing down your spine, and could
cause butterflies to tickle your belly. This person would penetrate you with his
thoughts and just his presence along caused tingles to run down your arms, to
the ends of your finger tips."
If all goes well, she will feel the
tingles as I describe them. She has to feel them now to compare them to see if
she's ever felt them in the past.
Now you are talking like a
girl! Anyone who is around women consistantly know that all they talk about
is sex, sex, and everything surrounding sex.
Getting phone numbers is
emphasized WAY too much on this board. As great as it feels to get phone
numbers, rarely does it ever pan out into a fvck.
Because this board
is not a satellite of speed seduction; there are countless boards and discussion
areas for that.
Women love to fvck. This is 100% true. Women love to
fvck just as much as men do.
I would say that women love to 'fvck'
MORE than men. In fact, women's entire consciousness revolves around the axis of
However, to prevent themselves from feeling like a slut,
you must create a real or superficial relationship with her INSIDE OF HER MIND
before she'll fvck you.
Have I not said that women are entirely
sexual BY DEFAULT and their concern is not that they are sexual but on how
EVERYONE ELSE percieves it?
Did I not say that Speed Seduction absolutely
does NOTHING to truly 'seduce' her but only bring down the social/reputation dam
that keeps women's sexuality from flooding everything and anyone? Here is the
Women will have sex left and right but that fear of 'slut'
behavior stops them and frustrates them.
In other words, women
hate virtue and will despise purity. Thus, there are no true 'innocent'
She'll fvck you if you show her it's ok to do
Well well! She will do you (or anyone with a 'value') as long as
you show her its 'ok'! What is romance to a woman but license to act all the
things she wants?
So here lies a mystery. SS pats its own shoulder by
saying, "With this knowledge you will influence and alter women's behavior."
Yet, it is admitted that women WILL have sex very freely as long as that frame
of mind (slut fear) is in place and so you must tear that down (which only we
can because MEN create the boundaries of society).
So why does SS believe
that it is altering women when it is merely showing them that it is all
My answer: vanity. Men want to believe they are sex gods that flip
women to them like cards. But as we see, it is women who are ultimately in
control with SS. The SSer takes the reactive position.
Now what has the
Man become after all this? He is reacting to how her body behavior, to her
speech, to her vocabulary, to her values, to her dreams, and so on. Has he not
merely become a boy-toy? I mean, what more CAN he be!?
Now, if I made any
mistakes in the above, do tell me. Error or vanity has never been my
Just as hard as it was to face the truth of our past AFC/Nice
Guyness, so shall seeing the underpinning of SS take similiar
Now, I have one more question. If SS is truly reacting and
'transforming' one's self to the woman and her dreams...
Is the SSer
truly making love to her or is she merely masturbating herself using him as the
physical object? After all, he uses her vocabulary, has her values, acts like
she does, and talks like a woman.
Is this the essence of Speed
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